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Old 09-28-2012, 12:17 PM
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if you want high precision you go for lot of travel

if you want to go to the limit samll travel is best
Stick-travel is only one part of this. The reason why an Extra 300 has higher roll-rates than an F18 isn't due to stick-movement, it's due to bigger control-surfaces.

Besides, your example is completely silly on for example an F16, where the stick measures force, not travel.

Memo to self: why the HELL do I even bother answering a raaaid-thread....
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:37 PM
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Memo to self: why the HELL do I even bother answering a raaaid-thread....
Thanks for the reality check
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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well im doing it out of generosity

with this setup i got a word record in an steam game(raceroom) in 4 hours(for my 1st recordin race evolution i needed 600)

without this high sensitivity setup i wouldnt be able to do it

as i said for me theres 2 seconds i gain from racing with 40º or 400º

feel free to grab free steam race room and race one of my hotlaps ghosts

i was pondering to get all records in that game but that was insane even for me

now i rather racing online, i dont even need to know the circuit to keep up with the high sens setup
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:48 PM
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That's great for you. Still a cheat if you ask me.
Isn't the point of a racing simulation to see what it would be like, racing in real life.
And if you have a wheel that can be set up to a specific car, why not do it.
Because you care more about some number, than real racing. That's childish to me.

Also, I don't know this game. Try RrFactor, Live for speed or iRacing, which are true simulators, see if it works there.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:04 PM
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it gives me a 2 seconds advantage in ALL games i tried including lfs , gtr and all simbin games

why is it a cheat if you can do it in real life

if i was a race driver 1st thing i would setup the direction like a quad, linear and 1:1 ratio with a low force feedback

why is this cheating if it can be done in real life

or not following the heard copying the previous pilots and do whats best for you its cheating

well in a way it is, not following the heard i mean
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:08 PM
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why is it a cheat if you can do it in real life
If you increase the ratio between stick-travel and control-surface deflection, you'll most likely severely damage the aircraft since you go beyond the loadlimits, or you'll put yourself into a G-LOC situation with subsequent loss of control. Which, in an aircraft (and ESPECIALLY at events like Reno, usually means that you die.

There's usually a reason as to why the controls are set up as they are in aircraft.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:17 PM
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but thats my whole point:

modern fighters use joysticks of short stick

old fighters used long sticks

do you realize the lenght of the stick is what determines run or sensitivity?



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Old 09-28-2012, 02:20 PM
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And there's a reason why they're setup like they are in real car racing too.

Do you know what would happen if you would jerk your 40 degree wheel at 200 mph.
In some panic situation, you jerk the wheel slightly you are out.
+ the strain on the construction, on the tires etc...

There's safety regulation in real life.

Anyway I have never, ever heard of a racing vehicle with a 40 degree steering lock.
It is not possible in real life, either because of mechanical reasons, safety reasons or wear and tear reasons.
There for, if you want to brag about your racing skills, be a man and do it like the real men race.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:22 PM
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ARE you kidding me )))

Do you even know what stick you've posted? And how many aircraft use that technology
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:27 PM
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but thats my whole point:

modern fighters use joysticks of short stick

old fighters used long sticks

do you realize the lenght of the stick is what determines run or sensitivity?



You've posted an image of an F-16-stick. Which moves about 1/4th of an inch all in all. That movement is NOT, in ANY way, what defines the amount of controlsurface-deflection on the Viper, as it's flight-contro-system is set up so that it's how much FORCE you use that is used to measure the deflection-angle.

Comparing that to a Spitfire, which you have done here, is idiotic, even for you.

You can add the fact that most modern-day fighterjets use a Fly-by-wire system, i.e. there's no moving, mechanical linkage between the stick and the control-surfaces like you have on for example a Spitfire. It doesn't compare at all, in any way.

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