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Old 01-14-2012, 01:09 PM
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Default 4.11 fw190 fm

What is exactly you changed?

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Old 01-14-2012, 01:25 PM
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so far i have only noticed the engine overheat changes. but thats general.

someone was saying that its top speed had been reduced.
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:36 PM
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they nerfed a lot all of the 190 speed, for example, in 4.10.1(Still FM oleg)
the fw190d9 could reach 730 km/h at 5000-6000 meters, now only reach 670-680 m/h and the fw190d9late reach 695 km/h at 5500 meters.

I wasnt tested now, but with IL-2 compare 4.11 you know all the changes, at least expect with this nerf, they put the real acceleration, bnz characteristics, becouse now, the mustangs, p47 are overkill.
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Old 01-14-2012, 02:07 PM
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This is a quote from the 4.11 guide:

Fw 190

''For the whole series handling and performance have been changed.
A new model has been made, a fully rated A-4. The derated model is now simulated by using the same engine with a limited throttle. (88 percent)

The A-5 and A-6 no longer have the erhöhte Notleistung. The A-5 1.65ata boost system onlyworks at low altitude now.

The D-9 1944 has been modelled to 1900hp version performance, the D-9 45 remains with the 2150hp MW50 injection performance.

The Ta 152 H-1 now has working GM-1 injection.''

Basically, the whole Fw 190 family has been re-done to match the characteristics of the real thing more precisely, also several mistakes have been fixed as described in the above paragraph. (e.g. versions with WEP)

I agree the information is rather vague but I believe that any 190 jockey will notice and appreciate these changes. This doesn't mean the plane is better now, it simply feels different by a margin. Best thing to do is go and give it a shot and check the loadouts, too.
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Old 01-14-2012, 02:35 PM
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I did a lot of testing in the A-4 and A-4 1.65 ATA (due to bug in the A-4 throttle max of 88%) yesterday and the changes are big!

First of all it does not feel so stiff in the control. In the 4.10.1 all the Fw190 feel very stiff in their controls.

The don't bleed energy like they use to.

Now you have a chance against a Spitfire Vb in a A-4.
In QMB a veteran Spitfire Mk. Vb (1942) I am consistenatly able to hold my own; I would say that survival are 70/30 to the 190A-4. This is new for me. The Spitfire IXc (1942) are a real challenge and survival feels like 40/60.
In the 4.10.1 you had to dispatch the Spit IXc in within the first pass in a 1vs1.

The Spit Vb still turn better but at a price. Engine overheat.

Landing in the Fw190A have become a challenge. It seems to be without drag and will not drop speed even with gear and flaps fully out.


BTW: EAF is an allied Sqd so this change is not welcome seen from an egotistic point of view. I must be a traitor since I love it
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Old 01-14-2012, 02:37 PM
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I did a lot of testing in the A-4 and A-4 1.65 ATA (due to bug in the A-4 throttle max of 88%) yesterday and the changes are big!
The 88% is not a bug, it's a feature as stated in the guide.
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Old 01-14-2012, 02:43 PM
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with such change(top speed has 30-40km/h decreasing at altitude regarding to compare data), LW cannnot fly on east front after 1943 anymore. no chance to deel with Las, yaks from altiude to bottom. at beginning bf109, now Fw190......., I am tired, I'd better focus on other things from now on.
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:49 PM
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with such change(top speed has 30-40km/h decreasing at altitude regarding to compare data), LW cannnot fly on east front after 1943 anymore. no chance to deel with Las, yaks from altiude to bottom. at beginning bf109, now Fw190......., I am tired, I'd better focus on other things from now on.
when I come back to my city I will provide some info from dietmar hartman book, Im sure TD have wrong data.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:06 PM
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I would to see the references for these changes... its is possible?
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:18 PM
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Will not upgrade until the hotfix comes out. A few questions:

1. Do we still need Manual Prop. Pitch to get better acceleration in Antons?

2. Is there any improvement in Antons' low-speed (0-150 km/h) acceleration performance?
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