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Old 04-25-2012, 12:14 PM
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please please try it from 10000m, and see the difference.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:27 PM
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I am serious, do not take it as a joke

Please go WIKI if u do not understand what i am talking about.

Sorry for anything offensive

please also go Il2 compare to check La5 1942 and Fw190A9 ---- altitude vs TAS

U will really support me if u read the diagram and understand the difference.

"La5 1942 can not compare Fw190A9 in TAS at all Altitude except within 2km steep diving."

does it sound rediculous?
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:48 PM
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also please make sure u understand the difference between

diving speed limit

&

diving speed acceleration
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:03 PM
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also please make sure u understand the difference between

diving speed limit

&

diving speed acceleration
I do understand the difference. i also understand that 2000m is not enough to show much, and that its not just the speed at the bottom, its the time to get there. Put them both side by side with to people in, and do the test from higher, and then come back.

It may well be that it should be more pronounced, but you will notice differences.

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Old 04-25-2012, 02:23 PM
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I think you are incorrect

1. 2000m dive for la5 1942 will increase it's speed from 260km to 720km which is it's limit
more distance is meanless, it will be shreded into pieces.

2. certain distance of 2000m, fixed speed at the start (260km/h) and fixed speed at
the end (720km/h), the acceleration rate is FIXED,
u can not reach the same speed by the end with different acc. rate, isn't it?

3. the case u mentioned diving from 10000m and see the difference does not because
of the acceleration, may be it is because of the speed limit.
limit of la is 720km, 860km for 190A9.
La of cause can not follow you thru out the diving if you start from 10000m

4. my point is: the distance between la5 and FW should be increasing once start diving
instead of maintaining the distance till the critial speed limit of La5

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Old 04-25-2012, 02:35 PM
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I think you are incorrect
Well i'm certainly not from tests myself and DD_squawk did with respect to J2M's and P47's, we noticed one plane pulling away from the other, way way before the Vne of either plane.

Unless you have the 2 planes side by side, you won't and can't see it, have you tried this with someone else?
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Old 04-25-2012, 02:52 PM
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Well

I have suffered a lot in dogfight server in which I was caught up by La with same E stage
under 3000m.

That's why i start to reseach this issue~~~
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:06 PM
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dear D team member / admin

please see the fomular

set:
accelerate rate= a
starting speed=v0
end speed=vt
distance=x

The accelerate=a=(vt^2-v0^2)/(2x)
=(720km/h^2-260km/h^2)/(2*2000m)
=8.7m/s
=almost just G itself

this is the dive accclerate rate for everything in IL2,

for every bomber and piston fighter,

for both feather and rock in Il2 if any.

so simple and unrealistic

is this all we got in IL2 even in the future?
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:41 PM
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wrong post, pls delete, sorry

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Old 04-25-2012, 06:38 PM
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I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?
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