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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games.

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Old 02-25-2011, 05:13 PM
Flying Pencil Flying Pencil is offline
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Talking Air-Sea rescue mission, this would be AWESOME!

The game will have AI versions of the Supermarine Walrus (pictured behind Bf-110) and possibly He-115 (some in-progress images posted in past).

Scenario:
You pilot is shot down over channel and is now playing in a rubber dinghy.
You "borrow" another avatar to mount a rescue, with an escort of fighters.

Success: you continue with your player character with little loss to player.
Fail: Loose lots of points, or the character.


Can extend to Online play too!
"Save Herr Galland!"

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Old 02-26-2011, 10:53 AM
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This could end up in a "chute" debate.

Doing BOB It was ordered to the RAF to shoot down German rescue planes because the british suspectet that the rescue planes was doing abit spyjobs....

This is like the debate in silenthunter about lifeboats, yes/no

Personaly i dont shoot "chutes", i never shoot a plane marked with green or red crosses dont bomb hospital ships. Didnt even bomb a fieldhospital in a online campaign. You cant avoid it 100%, but i dont use crosses as aiming points.

Im the type who leave a black smoking plane and dont use ammo on making sure hes going down. My job is to disrupt the enemy from doing hes job, not looking at an ace ladder...
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:43 PM
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This could end up in a "chute" debate.

Doing BOB It was ordered to the RAF to shoot down German rescue planes because the british suspectet that the rescue planes was doing abit spyjobs....

This is like the debate in silenthunter about lifeboats, yes/no

Personaly i dont shoot "chutes", i never shoot a plane marked with green or red crosses dont bomb hospital ships. Didnt even bomb a fieldhospital in a online campaign. You cant avoid it 100%, but i dont use crosses as aiming points.

Im the type who leave a black smoking plane and dont use ammo on making sure hes going down. My job is to disrupt the enemy from doing hes job, not looking at an ace ladder...
Ace ladder?
You know, if I was a brit, I would shoot down rescue planes. I would also seriously think about shooting enemy parachuters, considering the fact that they were firebombing civilian targets/london and killing tens of thousands of people. If its strictly military on military then kicking someone when they are down is dishonorable and inhumane (ie parachute shooting, hitting field hospitals, shooting POW), once they start targeting non-combatants it changes things. (Or if I was alive at the time, I believe for me it would).

On the other hand if I was a german I would not shoot british shutes in the bob, but then again I wouldnt be participating in the bombing either.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:46 PM
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Ace ladder?
You know, if I was a brit, I would shoot down rescue planes. I would also seriously think about shooting enemy parachuters, considering the fact that they were firebombing civilian targets/london and killing tens of thousands of people. If its strictly military on military then kicking someone when they are down is dishonorable and inhumane (ie parachute shooting, hitting field hospitals, shooting POW), once they start targeting non-combatants it changes things. (Or if I was alive at the time, I believe for me it would).

On the other hand if I was a german I would not shoot british shutes in the bob, but then again I wouldnt be participating in the bombing either.
lol......Im talking about the virtual world, how i do my online gaming. And loads and loads of online players do look at the ace ladder (point whores) kill freaks etc....

In RL it was an order that gave permission to shoot down S and R planes...it didnt come from pilot to pilot but from high command.

I dont look at my actions and hold them against RL, and i dont use history books to explain my actions. Im not old enough to have lived ww2, i have books and games, but i dont use the books for my game

LTbear
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:04 PM
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AFAIK It wasn't due to "Spying" it was due to the fact that any rescued pilot could be back in action against England. Went both ways I suppose, inevitable consequence of war, similar to when I met my wife, starts out ok but soon turns nasty
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:39 PM
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lol......Im talking about the virtual world, how i do my online gaming. And loads and loads of online players do look at the ace ladder (point whores) kill freaks etc....

In RL it was an order that gave permission to shoot down S and R planes...it didnt come from pilot to pilot but from high command.

I dont look at my actions and hold them against RL, and i dont use history books to explain my actions. Im not old enough to have lived ww2, i have books and games, but i dont use the books for my game

LTbear
Ah ok dw then, it was more personal musing then anything else.

@Sauf - lmao
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:23 PM
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Yep, the following thing would be chute-shooting brit-pilots because they just get a new plane and get up again.
A sick thing, imho.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:27 AM
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Ace ladder?
You know, if I was a brit, I would shoot down rescue planes. I would also seriously think about shooting enemy parachuters, considering the fact that they were firebombing civilian targets/london and killing tens of thousands of people. If its strictly military on military then kicking someone when they are down is dishonorable and inhumane (ie parachute shooting, hitting field hospitals, shooting POW), once they start targeting non-combatants it changes things. (Or if I was alive at the time, I believe for me it would).

On the other hand if I was a german I would not shoot british shutes in the bob, but then again I wouldnt be participating in the bombing either.
Thats easy to say with the perspective you've now, truth to be told if you were a german soldier you would have a completely different view and what you would/wouldnt do no one will ever know.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:39 AM
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The game will have AI versions of the Supermarine Walrus (pictured behind Bf-110) and possibly He-115 (some in-progress images posted in past).

Scenario:
You pilot is shot down over channel and is now playing in a rubber dinghy.
You "borrow" another avatar to mount a rescue, with an escort of fighters.

Success: you continue with your player character with little loss to player.
Fail: Loose lots of points, or the character.


Can extend to Online play too!
"Save Herr Galland!"

This is going to be really helpfull in the event,

there is actually, an On-line War at some point in time.

(I can't imagine how because there are no sectors to advance in this scenario)

where you get the chance to include in all missions (both Sides) an A/C that can resque the downed pilot (s) flown by a Human.

At this point you would have to figure out the way this action gets acretited and the points received. (other wise almost no-one would fly the resque Flying Boat )

At any rate i'm all for the flying boats!

Can we have them anytime it is comfortable for the team please ?

Ps. Chute Killing is an extremely un-ethical action to take place especially in a simulated enviroment and IMO should be penalised.

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Old 03-01-2011, 09:34 PM
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I've spent time on an add-on catalina for FSX on a friend's PC and it's a downright beauty (it's also a mere 5km/h faster in cruise than my 15 year old nissan sunny, but that's another story ).

I've always liked the less well-known actions of the air war (for example, i can't wait to fly nightfighters or pathfinders at some time in the future) and i have a soft spot for flying boats and seaplanes so i'm all for the inclusion of such missions, if not on the stock campaigns then in the form of FMB triggers so we can use them in our own custom made missions and online scenarios.
We've all been in a DF server keeping track of available planes and pilots, imagine if we could pick up our downed pilots and replenish our teams counters

Flying a complicated multi engined aircraft, low and slow amid terrible weather, trying to be as stealthy as possible, fighting both the enemy and the natural elements and to top if off, imagine it's done with a human crew in multiplayer, while trying to locate that rubber dinghy or looking for a U-boat periscope...it would be a totally different kind of fun but still great fun
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