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Old 04-21-2009, 06:25 PM
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Been working my way steadily through the editor for the last couple of weeks and generally enjoying myself. It's got to be one of the best editors I've seen with any game. One thing keeps eluding me though and that's how to use the water settings in F2.I can mess around with the maps and sort of get a river with working boats but reading through the help section Nike posted here in the mods section I found a piece he put in about setting water levels etc. so I was hoping to at last be able to do things properly but no go. I still cannot get the water level to be anything but '0'. Could anyone here run through briefly how it's done? The Tutorials at Youtube are of low vision quality and combined with no soundtrack I just can't follow them.
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:18 AM
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Been working my way steadily through the editor for the last couple of weeks and generally enjoying myself. It's got to be one of the best editors I've seen with any game. One thing keeps eluding me though and that's how to use the water settings in F2.I can mess around with the maps and sort of get a river with working boats but reading through the help section Nike posted here in the mods section I found a piece he put in about setting water levels etc. so I was hoping to at last be able to do things properly but no go. I still cannot get the water level to be anything but '0'. Could anyone here run through briefly how it's done? The Tutorials at Youtube are of low vision quality and combined with no soundtrack I just can't follow them.
The guide for GEM will be updated in the nearest time. And about video tutorials, try to switch HQ mode, they become much more useable.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:37 PM
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Place your water entities on the map where your lake/sea and/or river are going to be. Then use the height tool to make the ground under the water entities lower.

Then go to heights and set water altitude as anything below zero, like perhaps -10. You will now see all your water entities being lowered to -10. Continue to lower them by using the water altitude settings until it looks ok.

I have added a screenshot of a map that I am working on (very very WIP) and I´ve encircled the part of the menu where you set the water altitude. I hope this will explain how to set the water altitude. By doing this, all soldiers and vehicles that enters the water, will have splash around them when moving and if the water gets too deep for them, soldiers will swim and vehicles will sink and be lost forever.



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Old 04-22-2009, 01:04 PM
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Nike-it.Thanks for your response.Good news about the Editor. Zeke Wolff thanks for your tutorial.I'm off to try it now.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:18 PM
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Zeke Wolff.Thanks again. I'm ok now.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:10 PM
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Happy to hear that you got it to work. Now go make some nice maps for us to enjoy!

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Old 04-23-2009, 06:16 PM
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Zeke... do you have the image you were going to post? I am confused still...

When I go to Heights and set the Water Altitude to -10 ... it will not keep any # lower than zero.

>Edit -> Ok I got it working... placed a large river and scaled it up .... you must go into TERRAINS and set Ground/Shallow Water or any other terrain down also... so you will see the water splash effects... Heheh swamp is funny... My soldier vanished to the Piranha!

Ok... so a few things... my water altitude won't set below zero... and also how can you place just a large mass water object on the map or is there one? Am doing a jungle/swamp and it is going to take ALOT of water objects... was thinking could get by with just a super large one but scaling it seems to change the water texture detail (makes it worse)...



Ok so it seems ALL the swamp terrains will just suck up your infantry... and Swamp terrain will suck up your vehicles too... hmmm Wanted to add in mud and puddles to slow down troops and vehicles... any ideas?

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Old 04-23-2009, 07:50 PM
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Zeke... do you have the image you were going to post? I am confused still...
Picture is attached to my reply to Benson´s original question, two or three postings above yours...

When I go to Heights and set the Water Altitude to -10 ... it will not keep any # lower than zero.

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>Edit -> Ok I got it working... placed a large river and scaled it up .... you must go into TERRAINS and set Ground/Shallow Water or any other terrain down also... so you will see the water splash effects... Heheh swamp is funny... My soldier vanished to the Piranha!
Do not use scaling on water stamps. Use several smaller water stampings placed next to each other to create a larger piece of water. And when the map is fully done, then go to TERRAINS and use the option "TEXTURE FILL". This will automatically create your different terrain effect. When this has been done, use the other TERRAIN OPTIONS to create dirt road effects, river effects etc etc.

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Ok... so a few things... my water altitude won't set below zero... and also how can you place just a large mass water object on the map or is there one? Am doing a jungle/swamp and it is going to take ALOT of water objects... was thinking could get by with just a super large one but scaling it seems to change the water texture detail (makes it worse)...
Strange... In the screenshot I added of my desert map in my reply to Benson´s question, so have I set the water altitude to -85 with no problem at all... You do lower the ground where you want the water to be, right? Always make the ground where rivers, seas and lakes are placed lower than the surrounding areas.

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Ok so it seems ALL the swamp terrains will just suck up your infantry... and Swamp terrain will suck up your vehicles too... hmmm Wanted to add in mud and puddles to slow down troops and vehicles... any ideas?
Yes, there is an easy and quick solution to this... Go to TERRAIN PP, pick Swamp and in the menu TERRAIN FX pick Mud for any areas which should be muddy and Puddles for areas with a puddle in it etc.

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Old 04-23-2009, 07:57 PM
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Prowlinger. I found that regarding the water settings mine kept reverting to zero until I set them and then hit the 'Enter' key on my keyboard.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:23 PM
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Prowlinger. I found that regarding the water settings mine kept reverting to zero until I set them and then hit the 'Enter' key on my keyboard.
Yep, this is correct. You must always hit the "Enter" key whenever you manually changes any of the height and water values in the editor... sorry for missing to point this one out...

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