1C Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official 1C Company forum > 1C Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover > Pilot's Lounge

Pilot's Lounge Members meetup

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-24-2013, 11:26 PM
raaaid raaaid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,329
Default the paradox of the grandma present

1st my apologies for the other thread, farthest from my intention to be ofensive, as a matter of fact i tried to soften the original story

ill make a kids aproach now:

granma told told tommy that as he had been a good kid she would buy a present for him

she told him she would give the present to him a class day at supper time and that it WOULD CAUGHT HIM BY SURPRISE

tommy started to wonder when granma woud give him the present:

he concluded that if thursday supper passed by and grandma didnt give him the present he would know for sure it would be on friday, SO THERE WOULD BE NO SURPRISE

so friday was ruled out as the gift day

so the present could arrive on monday or tuesday or wednesday or thursday if it was to be a surpirse

but then he could use the same reasoning if wedenesday supper passed by he would know the day his grandma chose to give him the present would be thursday

and tommy went on and on and conclude grandma had lied for it could not be a surprise

yet tuesday arrive and tommy got a very nice present and indeed was surprised

so whats wrong here?

btw thanks for the lesson alpha
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:09 PM
tk471138 tk471138 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 285
Default

hold on what did you say in the other thread? all i see is a few red words

as to what is wrong...did tommy get a sweater or a book, socks maybe?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:20 PM
raaaid raaaid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,329
Default

oh i read it otherelse as a hanged man and a judge, i adorned it being a nazi judge and a war prisoner

still alpha was spot on to tell the idea you dont need to go sinister
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-26-2013, 12:39 AM
tk471138 tk471138 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 285
Default

ok i think i see what you mean that makes sense

Last edited by KG26_Alpha; 01-26-2013 at 06:48 PM. Reason: censored :)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-26-2013, 02:17 AM
WTE_Galway WTE_Galway is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,201
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tk471138 View Post
hold on what did you say in the other thread? all i see is a few red words

as to what is wrong...did tommy get a sweater or a book, socks maybe?


Maybe Tommy never gets a present at all. That would sure surprise the heck out of him.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:47 AM
MadBlaster MadBlaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 666
Default

I was brushing up on induction last night. Anyway, there is no base case here. If grandma had given Tommy a present in the past for being a good kid and it had surprised him, Tommy would not have reasoned and concluded that his grandma is a liar. Instead, he would have likely deduced something to the effect “if it happened once, it can happen again”, unless, of course, you get executed during the the base case. Oh look, grandma is giving a present...then all of a sudden ”whack” , your head chopped off. Personally, I like the execution version better.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-26-2013, 04:37 AM
Wolf_Rider Wolf_Rider is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,677
Default

simple mish mash of words...

the surprise was the gift itself (and something Tommy had not expected), not the day it was presented on


?
__________________
Intel 980x | eVGA X58 FTW | Intel 180Gb 520 SSD x 2 | eVGA GTX 580 | Corsair Vengeance 1600 x 12Gb | Windows 7 Ultimate (SP1) 64 bit | Corsair 550D | Corsair HX 1000 PSU | Eaton 1500va UPS | Warthog HOTAS w/- Saitek rudders | Samsung PX2370 Monitor | Deathadder 3500 mouse | MS X6 Keyboard | TIR4

Stand alone Collector's Edition
DCS Series



Even duct tape can't fix stupid... but it can muffle the sound.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:39 PM
major_setback's Avatar
major_setback major_setback is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lund Sweden
Posts: 1,414
Default

Any present from a a granny would be surprising if it wasn't a bad Stylistics record, a bad jumper, a pair of socks, or a bad pair of underwear.
__________________
All CoD screenshots here:
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/

__________


Flying online as Setback.

Last edited by major_setback; 01-26-2013 at 03:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-26-2013, 04:52 PM
raaaid raaaid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,329
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider View Post
simple mish mash of words...

the surprise was the gift itself (and something Tommy had not expected), not the day it was presented on


?
yeah i mess up the story lets say grand ma told him it woud be a toy pinball, the surprise WOULD BE THE DAY OF THE PRESENT
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-27-2013, 03:30 AM
Wolf_Rider Wolf_Rider is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,677
Default

That does change the whole scenario then, Raaaid. A bit like moving or omitting a comma can, eh?


So the surprise is; grandma remembered?
__________________
Intel 980x | eVGA X58 FTW | Intel 180Gb 520 SSD x 2 | eVGA GTX 580 | Corsair Vengeance 1600 x 12Gb | Windows 7 Ultimate (SP1) 64 bit | Corsair 550D | Corsair HX 1000 PSU | Eaton 1500va UPS | Warthog HOTAS w/- Saitek rudders | Samsung PX2370 Monitor | Deathadder 3500 mouse | MS X6 Keyboard | TIR4

Stand alone Collector's Edition
DCS Series



Even duct tape can't fix stupid... but it can muffle the sound.

Last edited by Wolf_Rider; 01-27-2013 at 04:34 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:08 PM.

Based on a design by: Miner Skinz.com

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 1C Company. All rights reserved.