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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games.

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Old 03-01-2011, 12:07 AM
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Seriously, they could make a cockpit for one or two of these for the next theatre, be it med. I 'insist' fiat cr42 and gladiator, cos' I leik biplanez.
Nice choices! I agree, I want to get my Pattle on, and I think the CR42's beautiful (much more so than the Gladiator, that's for sure ). I think it would be reasonable to expect maybe one or two AI made flyable between now and the next big release.

My most wanted AI->flyables list looks like this:

1)Vickers Wellington Mk.IC
2)Short Sunderland Mk.V (extremely unreasonable and unrealistic request, but still...)
3)FIAT CR. 1942 Falco
4)Bristol Beaufighter Mk.IF
5)Gloster Gladiator Mk.II

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Old 03-01-2011, 12:14 AM
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I think the Chinese are our primary landlord.
If you owe the bank a million dollars, they own you.
If you owe the bank a few billion dollars, you own them.

Anyways, wasn't it something like 6 months of development to create a single cockpit? I don't see how you'd get another 12 planes flyable in a year or less.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:30 AM
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Anyways, wasn't it something like 6 months of development to create a single cockpit? I don't see how you'd get another 12 planes flyable in a year or less.
Well, from what I remember it is 6 months IF one guy does everything from scratch.

If Oleg told his whole team, roughly 20 ppl, to focus sorely on cockpits, they could maybe pull something out in a more reasonable time .
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:36 AM
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Depends how many of those guys are modellers, and how many people can practically work upon one model at a time. Not more than two or three even if they divide it up, I imagine.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:06 AM
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I also belive that we will see some of the CoD AI planes in future scenario AdOns as flyable at last.
The Do17Z in a "Battle for Moskau"(that would be 1941/42) or the Wellington in a MTO scenario.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:10 PM
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Dude. Go fly a pencil or something.
I will, soon as the update is released!





Apparently, in Russian society you don't ask, you tell.

I was going to start with "Please" or "Request", but that would be ignored, so I insisted.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:16 PM
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If you owe the bank a million dollars, they own you.
If you owe the bank a few billion dollars, you own them.

Anyways, wasn't it something like 6 months of development to create a single cockpit? I don't see how you'd get another 12 planes flyable in a year or less.
In Russia, you already own the bankk.


In the Anson, correction, BR.20 case, it looks like the pit is already done.

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Old 03-01-2011, 05:30 PM
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I take exception to your broad brush mistreatment of your brothers across the pond and duly request a retraction of your obviously hastily made statement.

Seriously though, we're not all tools, it's just that they shout louder than the rest of us.
Oh it's much the same over here and I'm positive we provide our fair share on these very boards.

Hope everyone realises I was just trying to be funny
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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I figured that people would have better things to do than to make demands on Oleg and team during the final weeks before release.
I do have a strong feeling though that Oleg isn't going to put all of the time and effort into the AI planes and not already be working on pits for them.
Beta testing for another company, it is certain Oleg is deep into planning the update.
Very likely UBI has a gold master, so 1C is no longer under the release gun.
I am pretty sure the push back of release date is UBI takeing more time to get everything togeter in that rather well provided special box.

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I have seem Mr Pencil speak in videos, and he came across as a nice chap. I think we should bear in mind that he is American, and thus unaccustomed to using the English language in a polite manner. I think when he says 'insist' he means merely 'to request vigorously'.

I think it is incumbent upon us all to treat the colonials with some care, lest they be misunderstood with their excitable ways.
I say old chap, you got it spot on. Lets go down to the pub for a pint of bitter.
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Yeah, we may invade your island and keep it for ourselves!! Oh wait you dont have any oil reserves...never mind.
I beg to differ, swimming around the North Sea, I can rightly say they have a tidy sum of that smelly stuff.

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I think that if Señor Pencil is prepared to do all the research and legwork required to give MG's modellers the ability to make the exhaustively detailed 3D models of the cockpits of these aircraft (probably the most difficult to model accurately and the most difficult to find good information about, particularly non-pilot positions), then he could maybe be in a position to even dare to request such a thing.
All he has to do is ask.

I have over 1000 original period photos of 17's with all manner of appendages and bulges, some of which I have yet to figure out (nor anyone else).

Two show Gen Milch with his private Do-17S, with Adolf Galland.

Personally, would love to have a 215 with the 20mm installed.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:55 PM
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All he has to do is ask.

I have over 1000 original period photos of 17's with all manner of appendages and bulges, some of which I have yet to figure out (nor anyone else).

Two show Gen Milch with his private Do-17S, with Adolf Galland.

Personally, would love to have a 215 with the 20mm installed.
Well then, by all means do so! But that's still only one of the aircraft you mention...and how long did it take you to compile all this information? Even if you hand it all over and they decide to create cockpit and gunner position models, it's going to take months at least before it's in the game, even if they decide to work on it immediately (which I would not expect to be the case).
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