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Old 10-17-2009, 06:53 PM
Ancient Seraph Ancient Seraph is offline
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Oh don't worry about that guide, I have it in my bookmarks and have read it about 10 times. Very, very helpful.

My go-to plane is the Spit IX, and the XVI. To be honest, I can't really tell the difference. I was being frustrated by blowing holes in peoples wings, but not being able to finish them.

So I grabbed a 109 G6, and had GREAT success for a while until I ran into MCGIVERN, who made me look silly in his LA5FN. I couldn't get around, I couldn't do much except take a run at him, and then extend and hope to escape.

So I grabbed the LA5, and I pretty much suck. I can get a good look at people, but cannot shoot them for anything.

I think I might head back to the 109 and just figure out the best tactics for killing and avoiding being killed in one.
Yeah, the pro's and cons.. There isn't a whole lot difference between the IX and XVI, but there is some. The Spits and 109's are very nice for learning where to shoot, once you get the drift you can try the La. You can also try the La-7, I believe it has a bit more tracers, although still not a whole lot. 109's are tricky to not get killed with, especially in realistic. The BnZ doesn't work so well because they can see you coming. In any case it's not wise to start turning with a 109.
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Old 10-17-2009, 07:00 PM
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If you having trouble gunning, try the IL2. It may not be very maneuverable, but it's guns are so powerful that you don't need many shots to down a plane.

I'd like to "specialize" in the P-51, but sadly that isn't possible until the update.
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Old 10-17-2009, 07:00 PM
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I'll try the LA7. The 5's cannons fire too far apart. The planes always sneak in between them.

Yeah, turning the 109 is not ideal.
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Old 10-17-2009, 07:33 PM
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Well, I had a couple matches yesterday against MCGIVERN, and he pretty much showed that he can OWN you in an LA-7.
Yea he's a good pilot, too bad he's a cock though. Had a shed load of abusive and childish voice messages from him a few weeks ago. He deliberately crashes a lot too when your on his ass (not sure if he still does that now though). Total prick IMO
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:34 AM
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i only fly the 109 series. mostly i use the g-6 or the g-10. i have alot if success in these planes IF i stay out of the turn fights. playing 1v1 is suicide if the opponent is flying a spit or la, so i try to avoid those games. however if theres alot of people playing i try to single out one opponent and dive on him. or just make passes over the furball for quick snapshots and then zoom.

even when i make passes i try to never do a turn, instead i climb away and do an immelmann och dive back down. sometimes it clicks really well and its so fun and you feel like a true bird of prey diving down on someones six and finishing him in one burst and then disappear.

this tactic only works good in sim mode though when the opponents cant see you all the time.

i can't fly the spit to save my life and the La-series is ok. i've been totally dominated by guys like ancient seraph and morgoth in their spits and those times its hard to see any flaws in that plane even though the pilot matters the most . but when i try the spit i just cant manouver. the firepower is stunning but i stall whenever i try to turn. tried to lower the sensitivity etc but to no avail.
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:27 PM
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Yea he's a good pilot, too bad he's a cock though. Had a shed load of abusive and childish voice messages from him a few weeks ago. He deliberately crashes a lot too when your on his ass (not sure if he still does that now though). Total prick IMO
This is odd. I've been flying with Mirgergin for weeks, and I have to say he's one guy I trust to hold up his plane as long as it can fly, in order to allow you to get the kill. He's always been fairly soft-spoken and cordial except in one case where a dude was being a real jerk and we were all (collectively) telling him where to go.

Then again, we can all have bad days, I guess. I was just surprised to read this. In my experience, he's a top-notch pilot, and a good guy too.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:15 PM
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This is odd. I've been flying with Mirgergin for weeks, and I have to say he's one guy I trust to hold up his plane as long as it can fly, in order to allow you to get the kill. He's always been fairly soft-spoken and cordial except in one case where a dude was being a real jerk and we were all (collectively) telling him where to go.

Then again, we can all have bad days, I guess. I was just surprised to read this. In my experience, he's a top-notch pilot, and a good guy too.
Sounds like he was just having a bad day then. Although I don't think I've heard someone swear in one voice message as much as he did lol
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:30 PM
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Sounds like he was just having a bad day then. Although I don't think I've heard someone swear in one voice message as much as he did lol
Just flew with the guy. At the very least he doesn't make an effort to stay in the air. Not the most sporty type though. Maybe he had a good day when you were flying with him . Hell of a pilot though, can't deny that.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:54 AM
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Well, I had a couple matches yesterday against MCGIVERN, and he pretty much showed that he can OWN you in an LA-7. I had some very competent wingmates in a 3v3. We won 20-17. He had 17 kills. It was ridiculous. On realistic at first, then on sim, equally as dominant.

So I've been trying to fly the thing. It turns well, but I can't hit a thing. The fire rate is so tremendously slow and it hardly fires any tracers. Very frustrating.

What are your thoughts on this plane as a realistic or sim choice?
*Game show announcer voice* "Everyone welcome Soviet Ace, the supreme and all knowing person on Soviet Aircraft of WW2, and beyond!" *Cheering and screams. Some women even throw their panties at me *

Thank you, please your to kind. *Smiles and waves to the audience* Anyway, the reason the guns are slow firing is because they're 20mm cannons, and not MGs. If you want something fast and good like the La-5FN, take up the Yak-3 which has twin MGs and one nose 20mm cannon.

And I agree it has hardly any tracers, but I don't use tracers really to get a positioning on where I'm firing. Usually I just use the little dashes on the reflector sight to see where I'm shooting. It always helps, and I always get good kills on my friend. Hehehe

Also, both the La-5FN and La-7 have both their cannons positioned in the same place. So either plane, your going to have the difficulty of firing around the target, which shouldn't really happen in the first place because you should be firing up close and personal. Not 2,000+ feet away.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:15 AM
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