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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games.

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Old 12-12-2012, 10:31 PM
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Well Cranky, you do realize that its all over and ended now. You don't strike me as being a ROF kind of guy, do you fly it?
He's tree.
Tree flys RoF.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:51 PM
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Best of luck and thank you, Luthier.

I know some may take this as an insult, but that is far from my intention. During the development and release of CoD there were heightened emotions and frustrations from all involved. Some fans felt cheated. Many other's wanted what we hoped would be the continuation and improvement of the greatest combat flight sim ever created, IL2. Despite the fans feeling let down, the crew continued to work hard to produce the game based upon the vision that inspired them, even through the darkest times.

I thank you and leave this video, not as an insult but as reminder that through all the hard times, you kept your sense of humour. it's hard to keep yourself miserable while listening to banjo music, and in those days Im sure there was a lot of adversity to keep you down.

Good luck, Luthier. Hope to see you around again soon.

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:07 PM
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He's tree.
Tree flys RoF.
No I dont fly ROF, I purchased it to support it but the WW1 scenario is not my thing, Battle of Britain is my thing, but the lack of Coop's / online wars killed it for me and my squadron and many other squadrons.

Bottom line is that Luthier failed to listen to his customers, netcode was never fixed, cries for Coop's were dismissed. But most of all he missed the very most important feature that any flight sim should have and that is 'Immersion'. The Atag server is/was great but because of netcode issues we couldn't even use the default stock skins, Luthier shot himself in the foot and I hope that he learns the valuable lesson that 'your customer is always right', if they ask for more communication then give it to them, and never ever ever tell them lies.

Clod is great for making movies but other than that its a dead duck, very sad but it wasn't ruined by any of us here fans and whiners alike, it was ruined by the dev's.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:24 PM
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But most of all he missed the very most important feature that any flight sim should have and that is 'Immersion'. .
That is a load of crap.

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:28 PM
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That is a load of crap.

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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it was ruined by the dev's.
Actually it's the result of rather poor management, and that begun under Oleg.
Does that mean Oleg and/or Luthier are incompetent? ? No! Not at all, both are specialists in their field.
The funny thing is, a project manger doesn't have to be that deep into the matter, in fact that knowledge can be your worst enemy as you get sidetracked by problems which are not yours.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:34 AM
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No I dont fly ROF, I purchased it to support it but the WW1 scenario is not my thing, Battle of Britain is my thing, but the lack of Coop's / online wars killed it for me and my squadron and many other squadrons.

Bottom line is that Luthier failed to listen to his customers, netcode was never fixed, cries for Coop's were dismissed. But most of all he missed the very most important feature that any flight sim should have and that is 'Immersion'. The Atag server is/was great but because of netcode issues we couldn't even use the default stock skins, Luthier shot himself in the foot and I hope that he learns the valuable lesson that 'your customer is always right', if they ask for more communication then give it to them, and never ever ever tell them lies.

Clod is great for making movies but other than that its a dead duck, very sad but it wasn't ruined by any of us here fans and whiners alike, it was ruined by the dev's.
It's not like you haven't voiced your opinion ad nauseum on the forum. This isn't the place. Zip it pin head. it's a topic to say good bye and if so inclined to thank Luthier for his efforts. You don't have to like how it worked out, but show a little respect.

EDIT:Same goes for other who feel the need for one last pot shot. Let it go.

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I wish you all the best for the future, its sad that things have ended as it has.
I was talking to T_O_A_D on comms earlier about this, and it occurred to me that its thanks to yourself and Oleg and the rest of the team involved with il2, that there we were, talking to each other, me in the UK, him in the US.
Without il2, it is very unlikely that we would ever know each other and be friends, and all the other friends i have made though flying il2.
For that alone, you have my thanks, the hours and hours spent flying il2 is a a massive bonus.
cheers fruitbat.
This to me is one of the longest and least mentioned aspects of the whole IL2 venture. I learned to build PCs, use Photoshop, made friends from all over the world, some that I have known for over a decade and much much more as a direct result of IL2. Thank you Ilya .. not only for the efforts you put into CoD but also and moreso for me anyway.. PF.. As quiet as it is kept PF helped to save this sim and it would not be what it is today without PF and all that it brought afterwards.

Think about it..

So thanks.. and all the best. I do not know what will become of these boards in 18 months.. or what your plans are for the future but if you can find it in you, your presence and Oleg's for that matter would be a very welcome sight in any sim, on any forum, and any place in Cyberspace where IL2 is still celebrated.

~!S!~

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Old 12-13-2012, 01:16 AM
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Hope you find fortune in the states!
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:31 AM
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Stay classy, Tree.
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