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Old 04-27-2012, 02:06 PM
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Hi All, this is a pure hypothetical, and is not a “request” for the developers.

I have a question to “poll” the commitment to historical fidelity among us mostly red-aircraft flyers.

Would you embrace a modeled Spit 1b in the game, even if that flight model included the notorious and well documented frequent cannon jams?

I’m keen to hear the overall thoughts on this.

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No, I might consider the Spit Mk1b though........

really though, since only 19 squadron flew the Ib for a very limited time and that they were in 12 group, can't really see the point.

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I would welcome it on the basis it was historical fact, if there was room for the G50 then there is no excuse to exclude any RAF type.

Canons may have jammed but there were still 4 303's to use.
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I would welcome it on the basis it was historical fact, if there was room for the G50 then there is no excuse to exclude any RAF type.

Canons may have jammed but there were still 4 303's to use.
No, the Spit Ib only had 2 cannons.

It wasn't until the IIb that they had the duel weapon system, and that wasn't until dec 40, well after BoB (first squad 92 squadron).

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No, I might consider the Spit Mk1b though........
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No, the Spit Ib only had 2 cannons.

It wasn't until the IIb that they had the duel weapon system, and that wasn't until dec 40, well after BoB (first squad 92 squadron).

ooops..... my bad, but I would still like the 1b jams and all for the same reasons.
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I would welcome it on the basis it was historical fact, if there was room for the G50 then there is no excuse to exclude any RAF type.

Canons may have jammed but there were still 4 303's to use.
Incorrect, the Ib only had the cannons, no MG's. Usually jammed within first 10 rounds.
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Incorrect, the Ib only had the cannons, no MG's. Usually jammed within first 10 rounds.
Yes I know, the original post mentioned (before correction) the IIb, I have aknowleged the mistake.
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Hi All, this is a pure hypothetical, and is not a “request” for the developers.

I have a question to “poll” the commitment to historical fidelity among us mostly red-aircraft flyers.

Would you embrace a modeled Spit 1b in the game, even if that flight model included the notorious and well documented frequent cannon jams?

I’m keen to hear the overall thoughts on this.
To be honest, the cannon armed Spit for BoB does not interest me at all as I believe it had little, if any, effect on the battle. Unlike other technology such as 100 Octane fuel which was ubiquitous and one of the fundamental elements to success in the air for the RAF, along with other elements such as the Rotal prop, radar and the associated "Dowding system" for coordinating and using intelligence on incoming enemy ac.

Proper representation of 100 Octane fuel and the "Dowding system" would be my priority. I am not sure that I would ever bother to choose to fly a cannon armed Spit for BoB.
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Hi All, this is a pure hypothetical, and is not a “request” for the developers.

I have a question to “poll” the commitment to historical fidelity among us mostly red-aircraft flyers.

Would you embrace a modeled Spit 1b in the game, even if that flight model included the notorious and well documented frequent cannon jams?


I’m keen to hear the overall thoughts on this.




Luthier has already stated it wont be modelled.



So as for thoughts to have it in the game ?

Not for me thanks I wouldn't have wanted to enter a combat area with no reliable firepower.

But as for historical commitment yes you could have it but it would be like the V1 rockets in IL2 1946,
they are done but no one fly's intercept missions to tip them over with their wings, they fire at them.

Sometime the effort for doing something "just because" could be better spent in other areas that would be used.






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