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Old 02-17-2013, 02:57 PM
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:21 PM
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Why should Team Daidalos or others model a bomber which most players will not use? -which imho the Do-17 would be - given the durable and well armed He-111 or the fast and versatile Ju-88 are available in the same timeframe -and both can exceed the bomb capacity of the Do-17.

The Do-217 and the He-177 outperform the currently available bombers in at least one aspect, so they would be a welcome addition -and the would get at least some attention from the players - which planes get the most attention of the players now? - Usually its the "better" performing ones -right?
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:43 PM
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Yes, exactly. The M was the same as the K, but with DB-603A engines. It boosted the top speed from 515-520 to 560, so it was the fastest bomber of LW built in significant numbers.
Interesting! That would be valuable. A fast, heavy hitting bomber type for the Luftwaffe useful across a variety of date ranges and in a number of scenarios. I can see the Do217 as a flyable adding a lot to the mix.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:30 AM
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Why should Team Daidalos or others model a bomber which most players will not use? -which imho the Do-17 would be - given the durable and well armed He-111 or the fast and versatile Ju-88 are available in the same timeframe -and both can exceed the bomb capacity of the Do-17.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:55 AM
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Historical significance maybe...
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:10 PM
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It looks like lots of people here (including myself) would like to have a Do-217 as a flyable plane, so maybe we should gather as much info as possible about it. Maybe then someone would start to model the cockpit or other versions (E2/4 or M1). What do you think?

Fortunately, there are huge amount of documentation available for free, I dare to say its the most documented bomber of the LW! The manuals are full of useful information, plus tons of pictures of the cockpit, from almost any imaginable angle.

So I'd start with this:

Do 217 E-1, E-3 Bedienungsvorschrift-Fl
http://www.scribd.com/doc/120347364/...l-Oktober-1941
Kennblatt für das Flugzeugmuster Do 217 E-1/E-2 mit BMW 801 A-1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/120341821/...ach-Japan-1941
Do 217 K-1 Bedienungsvorschrift-Fl
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51456919/1...svorschrift-Fl
Do 217 K-1 Flugzeug-Handbuch Teil 8D & 8E, Sondereinbauten & Nebelanlage
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106942585/...ge-August-1943
Do 217 E-2, E-4 Flugzeug-Handbuch Teil 8D Sondereinbauten
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50870396/1...ondereinbauten
Do 217 E-2, E-4 Flugzeug-Handbuch Teil 8A Schusswaffenanlage
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50195253/1...sswaffenanlage
Do 217 E-2, E-4 Flugzeug-Handbuch Teil 8B Abwurfwaffenanlage
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50194022/1...rfwaffenanlage
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:20 PM
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Didn't know that Regia Aereonautica used them. Do you have infos about their operational use if any ?
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Didn't know that Regia Aereonautica used them. Do you have infos about their operational use if any ?
From Wikipedia:
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Twelve Do 217 J-1 and J-2 variants were acquired by Italian Regia Aeronautica between September 1942 and June 1943 for night fighter operations.[118] One Italian unit was equipped: 235a Squadriglia of 60° Gruppo (41° Stormo). Based at Treviso San Giuseppe, then at Lonate Pozzolo, the unit performed poorly. The unit shot down only one enemy aircraft, and lost one of their own, after nearly a year of activity.[119][120]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217

So really nothing much from the sounds of it..
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fenice Didn't know that Regia Aereonautica used them. Do you have infos about their operational use if any ?

the first photo is original color is italian pilot whit dornier 217 is really.


The REGIA AEREONATICA received twelve Do 217, between September 1942 and June 1943 versions of J-1 and J-2 night fighters.Only Italian unit was equipped with the Dornier night fighter: the 235 Squadron of the 60th Group (41 º Stormo BT), commanded by Captain Aramis Ammannato. The unit, first based in Treviso San Giuseppe, he moved to the most appropriate facility Lonate Pozzolo, October 21, 1943. Because of the training hasty, wear of the first machines delivered, radar equipment worn out, the unit almost a year of operation only managed to bring down a plane, when, on the night of 16-17 July 1943, Captain Ammannato with a Do 217 J-1 does not have a radar, intercepted an Avro Lancaster of the RAF, returning from the bombing of hydroelectric Cislago (near Varese). The British bomber crashed on the banks of the Ticino, at Vigevano. On 31 July 1943, the squadron had supplied another 11 Do 217, five operational and the other six being repaired or unemployable
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:52 PM
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If I recall correctly the 235a Squadriglia used also some second-hand Luftwaffe Bf 110Cs for training.
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