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Old 05-18-2010, 12:04 PM
Razorflame Razorflame is offline
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esteral your unit combination is a bit weird to me but anyway
for that battle

i would suggest swapping the black knights for evil beholders if u got any of them

i would swap the red dragon for a emerald green dragon

i would swap the vamps for royal thorns

and maybe but not sure of this swap pallies for royal griffins but i don't think is nescearry


on first turn
aussuming u got onslaught at level 1 and quick draw too

(make a phantom emerald dragon
fly to his units and use that mana boost)

throw a fireball on the ents

and use the evil beholder to mind control the goblins to attack an level 5 units
or try to get him fall into sleep(gobs sleep easily)

second turn cast fear on a low goblin if the sleep fails
and cast another fireball on the ents
and wait your real emerald dragon(he needs to steal mana after the second round)

then turn 3 fly back with the real emerald and phantom it again and move to phantom again to enemy
while meanwhile keep summoning those thorns and hit his level 5 units as hard as u can and try to kill ents first(aussuimg they are burning they die fast)

and keep a low stack of goblins alive for mass resu
turn fear on them or something so they won't attack

hope this helps
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:33 PM
Esteral Esteral is offline
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Thanks for the tips.

But I do have some questions on it.

- How do you keep de royal thorns alive, they cannot be ressed ?
- Evil beholders I used in the passed with a warrrior build but they not so usefull in most fights. I liked the Ancient Vampires better because they heal themselfs and created more rage, which I then can turn into mana.

- I used the reds for the fire on the ents, got also turn back time, but still 43 ants in 2 stacks are a lot.

I will try to get a screenshot of the battle field. (Added a screenshot)
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:38 PM
Razorflame Razorflame is offline
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demonologist can heal royal thorns
using their life force ability

^^

it's better to use a fireball on the ents
and use emeralds for mana

85 ents are easy
one of the most easy battles
maybe after bears
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:05 PM
Esteral Esteral is offline
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I will try and see what happens with Green Dragon's.

I should probably first go back to Verona/ Montero and kill most of the mobs there then continue on. At lvl 29 I am not sure I can pull this off.
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:10 PM
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seems doable though

only have to worry about the trolls and ogres

the rest can be feared
or blinded

and ents die on with fireballs

hence i said use a evil beholder to mind control the goblins
so u don't have to cast fear on him yet
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:30 PM
Esteral Esteral is offline
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Razor,

I only have 4 Evil beholders in Bolo.
Also I don't have blind !!!!!. Will find 1 on Nameless and 1 on Reha!!!
Same for Sacifices. But I digged 1 up luckly in Verona.

Also my plan was to go more of an undead build on this campgain. Thats why I have the vampires and death knights. Both I find to be strong troops.
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:39 PM
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well if u use that

get one stack of BK and vamps
and use eviln
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:12 PM
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Well I tried with Green dragon's and Fire Ball / Fire Rain.

The fight seems a little easier but still not possible yet. I dont have Chaos magic 3 yet and Destruction is on 1.
I have impression that with 2 or 3 more lvl's and Chaos magic 3 and Destruction 1 or 2. It should be possible. currently I just don't do enough dmg to the ents the first 2 - 3 rounds. The ents kill one of my stacks still in de first 2 rounds.

I will probably restart this whole game and take a different approach with everything learned so far.
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:33 PM
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don't give up that easily
use the combo i suggested

sumons is the win for that fight
to stall em long enough before they get to your real units

and else just use a single stack of undead and use eviln

it's not as hard as it looks

i beated like 40 ancients ents
with 20 demonologist 13 royal thorns, 12 royal griffins, 15 inqi's and 12 evil beholders

but then again
i had descutrction on 2 and chaos on 2

and they were divided into 5 stacks which makes it all the more easy
but then again every summon in spawned got creamed in the first turn
luckily the burn effect took out 3-4 ancients ents every time ^^
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:31 AM
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Thanks for the info Razor and Lore,

Iam playing with the gift pack and also used the scanner to get a nice build, but at the moment I got stopped in my impossible mage campgain.
I am lvl 29 and on Elon. Killed all the normal mob but Shenobi is to strong (lvl 44). I tried to battle him, but his troops do just to much dmg.
I have 10000 leadership and got 5 Red dragons , 42 Pallies, 55 Ancient Vampires, 47 Demonologist, 66 Black knights. Also have Mages and Inquistors in reserve.

He has Trolls, Ogres , Demonologists, Ancent Ents, and a bunch of orcs and stuff. Problem is his lvl 5 troops are too strong at this lvl for me.

I am trying to figure out how I can get my lvl up, but on all previous Islands I killed 98% of all troops. Only Montero Dungeon is mainly untouched and most of the hero's I left alive, because they are to strong (10+ lvls compaired to me). I played a noloss mage game before without the gift pack. The gift pack moved some of the higher lvl boss mobs and I have the impression some easier mobs are made harder in the gift pack but I am not sure if the game got harder with the gift back. Also I am still trying to figure out if I should do better on Montero and kill the hero's there.

Maybe you can tell me what your general lvl was at the mayor islands. Did you also have the flying horse when you left Montero?

I will try with the droids, I tried before but never really liked them.
It is an interesting mix of troops that you have, but I like the fact that they actually blend well morale-wise. Undead go well with paladins/inquisitors and neutrals (and red dragons and demonologists are some of the best neutrals in the game).

Understand that you should skip enemies only if you are saving them for an AK usage later on. That's because skipping enemies creates a snowball effect of making you weaker/lower level, which makes you skip more enemies later on. In my path, I was level 43 when I fought Shenobi (see screenshot).

Also note that I played warrior. I wish I could give you guaranteed tips, like how [mana accelerator-phantom bone dragons] will keep your enemies tied up forever (see screenshot), but I heard from others that the lower leadership of a mage has mixed results using this tactic.
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