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Old 07-04-2011, 09:49 PM
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Default German Flak Organization

Organisation of a german 8,8 cm Flak Battery:



Some more info:

Technisches Handbuch
http://www.lexpev.nl/downloads/tme93...man88mmgun.pdf

Aufstellung der Batterie
http://www.luftschutz-bunker.de/cont...d=26&Itemid=52

Gliederung Heeres Flakbatterie 8,8 cm
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstn17111nov43.htm

Flakschutz Raum Bremen (mit Aufbau der Batterie)
http://www.relikte.com/brm_flak/index.htm

Could we get a thread going with relevant organisations of different units from both sides of the conflict?

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Old 07-07-2011, 08:12 AM
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Unfortunately I cannot contribute here, but I say Thank you, very helpful indeed. I am always looking for information like these.
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:57 PM
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@SNAFU: No problem And here is another one:



Some more info:

Gliederung 2 cm Flakbatterie:
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstn2201lw1aug40.html

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Old 02-21-2012, 06:54 PM
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Default FlaK! (how'd they set it up)

Searching for how they might set up flak positions, I DID come across this, which I found interesting.. (but not what I'm looking for)

Here's a quote, and a link to the page I retrieved the pic from.
"Contrary to what may be a popular belief, heavy, long-range anti-aircraft guns could not track moving aerial targets on their own. The German practice was to have four guns controlled by an optical device called Kommandogerät, or control device. In this case, the Kommandogerät 40 combined a 4m Em (R) 40 rangefinder with an electro-mechanical ballistic computing device. This unit required an outside power source, so a Motorgenerator was connected to a Betriebßchaltkasten, mounted on top of a Sammlergestell; a power transmission line ran from this unit to the KDO40. A data transmission line, the Übertragungsleitung 37, ran from the KDO40 to a Verteilerkasten, which in turn, sent hard-wired data to the four guns in a typical FlaK-Batterie. This is why a heavy FlaK gun had cable reels fitted to its transport limber units."

-http://www.network54.com/Forum/477322/message/1328485138/Kit,+Bronco+CB35103,+German+Telemeter+KDO+Mod.40+w-Sd.Ah.52


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Old 02-21-2012, 06:57 PM
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Fantastic mission building! I like a good piece of eye-candy.

Can you wrap this up into an object which we can deploy into maps?

Anything similar for the Allies?
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:19 PM
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Yes, FLAK is in the new book I got.

Let me see if I can get it scanned soon.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:39 PM
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Interesting!

I was searching for this since we were creating a mission on Invasion 44 with an allied attack against flak trenches.
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Some quick sketches for you.


Pre WW2 and 39/40




1941 ~ 1942







I need to read the whole article in full but thats the jist. The number of guns goes up during the war for each Batterie. Just pulled it out of the Luftwaffe handbook.

Basically you got it right, four in a square, command in the centre, with the option to run the predictor right out to one side.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:27 PM
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Thks Farber! Very Usefull!
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Later in the war when it goes to 7 guns per Batterie the seventh goes in the middle. When an eigth is added they formed a ring.

O and each batterie had two 2cm AA... It doesn't show where they go though
Perhaps this is dependent on terrain.
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