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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games.

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Old 01-18-2011, 12:38 AM
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Angry Something about new "CoD" title that is truly abisimal.

It was kind of bugging me, but another post made me do it.

The inclusion of "IL-2 Sturmovik" under the title.

IL-2 Sturmovik is a name of an airplane, and the original game is named after that famous airplane and focused on that part of the that particular airplane was heavily used in. For that, the IL-2 Sturmovik name was ideal.

Now it is being used for this new game.
The Battle of Britain did not have that airplane in it. It had no Russian airplanes flying in that battle, and is 1000's of KM away from Russia!

using the established Brand you say?
Their is a huge difference between
"New Title, XYZ" and
"New Title, from the makers of XYZ" (this is ideal)


Not unlike Intel recycling its "Pentium" name, even though by the time Pentium 4 came out it was completely different then the original Pentium (and made it sound like Intel was reusing an old CPU and not make a new one).


IL-2 is an excellent game, but BoB:SoW / CoD needs to be absolutely clear it is something far better, and brand new!

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Old 01-18-2011, 12:49 AM
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I agree but IL-2 Sturmovik is the only established name brand they have. Your obviously right that the IL-2 wasn't in BOB, but it will be featured in a later version of the new IL-2 series. I also agree that the IL-2 name could confuse some people, between the new and old series, but most in the combat flight sim community realize the difference, while others outside the community wouldn't know what an IL-2 Sturmovik is, will be drawn by the Box Art.

But your right there still will be confusion.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:50 AM
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This has been covered in the other thread aint it guys?
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:51 AM
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I understand that it makes little sense outright, but "Il2 Sturmovik" is not only the name of a plane, its also a brand name that people have come to recognize. Unfortunately it was given to console and arcade games too, and it is perhaps time to let that name go. However I suspect that ic Maddox really need this to be a success and SELL, and having the recognized Il2 name behind it will do that better than any other name.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:20 AM
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Not unlike Intel recycling its "Pentium" name, even though by the time Pentium 4 came out it was completely different then the original Pentium (and made it sound like Intel was reusing an old CPU and not make a new one).

(I feel better now, thank you)


Yes well, You cannot trademark or copyright just a number by itself. Hence Intel need to move away from the 286/386/486 designations. They chose "Celeron", "Pentium" and later of course "Xeon".

These days the marketing hype has been about terms like "Core Duo" "Core i5" and so forth.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:55 AM
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I suspect the name also signals that we'll be going back to the Eastern Front a lot sooner than we expected.

Which I'm quite alright with... I've learned to love it (from originally not having any interest in it at all) from a historical perspective.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:57 AM
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... However I suspect that ic Maddox really need this to be a success and SELL, and having the recognized Il2 name behind it will do that better than any other name.
With saying "From the makers of IL-2 Sturmovik" will be enough to atract those who recognise the IL-2 franchise.
They could even add "...creating the NEXT Generation of flight simulation..." and it would also be even better.
The name of the thing is a pure marketing thing, and for flight sim veterans completely unimportant, but i also think it's a horrible decission this new name.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:22 AM
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My concern would be that people might think its just another addon for tired old IL-2, when its actually a brand spanking new game.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:45 AM
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Yes, this should be treated as a completely new series of flight sims. Keeping the "IL-2 Sturmovik" title will be confusing for those who are new to 1946, and new to flight sims in general. Although i am already sold, i do have to say i like the "Storm of War" title alot better. And seeing as that has been the name to be for this game for the past 5 years I think thats what should be used. A name change right b4 release doesn't seem like a smart decision to me... but i'm sure Oleg and Ubisoft both have some sort of reasons for this that we are all missing.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:26 AM
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3 months from now:

"I just bought Pacific Fighters, but it won't install into Cliffs of Dover.
Nor 1946 either. I tried buying the Complete Edition just to save trouble, but I can't even find CoD in it! Help please.

BTW, what is a Storm of Vik?"
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